 I feel compelled to tell this. I was just barely eighteen years old before I realized that chickens were not "small turkeys". I thought "roosters" and "hens" were just those nasty "yardbirds" roaming around in the gravel. I had no idea I ate them on a regular basis. Ah, confession, it's good for the soul!! :) |
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My confession would be that I am really timid. Very opposite of Khomar in that respect. I am however the idea person. Just ask my siblings whose great idea it was to sit on the roof and wait to snipe the neighbor kid. ;)
I have a confession
I have no political views whatsoever
I just like hanging around you guys
We're Good Guys
To hang around with. We get a little fiesty, but hey, that's the spice of life.
LIVE and let live.
Look who's returned.
so um.. why aren't u on facebook again?
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
I Knew It!!!
2 days in a row...wow trying to set a new record or something?
Welcome back ; )
Gotcha! :D
Well We Are...
a "fun" group and I guess that counts for something in your book...
My confession is I'm not really a poodle, Sorry I'm extremely boring and unimaginative.
There is an item
I will not post.
About a school district that chose to deem a 1st grade child who could read at six grade level retarded.
I find it hard to forgive myself for not fighting harder.
I hope some one forgives me.
LIVE and let live.
That's hard. It's terrible how they now use "social" as a part of school. My sister (who is also fairly gifted) was going to be held back because she was socially behind until my mom told them no way, she's bored enough in class as it is. Then they wonder why there is a high dropout rate.
Also, you gotta wonder what's up when over half the kids in our Early-on are boys.
Well that just sucks about the gifted child. Hell is going to enlarge itself for all the incoming.
I Was A Gifted Child In The 1960s....
and they didn't know what the hell to do with me. I was so bored all the time and out of that boredom got into mischief quite frequently or told the teacher to screw off because I was busy reading about something that interested me instead of the crap they were going over and over with endless repetition...
I didn't graduate Jr.High and they refused to let me go to the graduation ceremony and dance because and expelled me a few weeks before graduation and forced me to go to a neighboring Jr.High and I refused to go to that one. I was shuffled to high school with the remarks by the principal and 8th grade teacher "you'll do fine Tommy you are very smart but don't know how to apply yourself".No I was not challenged by those "teachers". If they only would have had some advanced program back then...
Sophomore year high, IQ testing time. Tested at 140 Now bored to the point of tears wanting just to disappear...Finally just walked away from school. I almost wish my mother hadn't started her early head start at home program when I was about three and the love of reading she created in me....I feel bottled up most of the time and ready to explode not being able to express myself like I should be able to. Just about everything I read I comprehend but for the life of me cannot relate it to anyone with any coherency...I wish I was a sheep sometimes... That's my confession.
:)
Major Input
I was talking by 1, reading by myself at 3, reading at a college level by 5th grade, tested in the 99th percentile consistently until Jr. High when I just got so bored with school that I stopped caring. Everything they tried to teach me I already knew or realized how pointless it was. My thoughts were always way too advanced for even my teachers so that was frustrating. My last IQ yest put me at 168 but that was awhile ago. I did graduate HS in the top 10%, I would have easily been a valedictorian had I not gone through a "phase" in 9th grade where I totally f'ed up everything I did.
The biggest mistake came when I chose to go to a college to get out quick and make lots of money. I always was more interested in psychology and thought I would make a great psychiatrist, but who has time for 10+ years of school when you could go for 3 year round for computer programming. I walked away from a Dean's Scholarship with two terms left because I just didn't want to do that with my life.
Like you I fail to relate with most people, even people that I feel should understand what I am saying. It's like I am speaking a foreign language 90% of the time.
Well Well stick....
I knew you tested higher than me...but 168??? Dammit I missed being a certified genius by 7 lousy points on that particular test. For the most part I think everyone here is a cut above most of the general populace...not better than anyone,just better informed and that comes from reading.
I worked with a much older carpenter a few years ago and he was mentoring a troubled boy of about 14 and he spent the day with is one time and so I asked the kid what was the last book he read...he didn't read and there wasn't a book all he was interested in was this stupid portable video game device he had. I offered him some kids classics that I have tucked away in my library but he wouldn't have any of it. I believe this is extremely prevalent and can see it in the way the under 30 crowd writes online...sad.
IQ tests often vary in results.
Depending on the test, and how you are doing that day, you could score quite differently on different tests and occasions.
I've had 5 IQ tests during my school years, and they varied from 148 to 172.
So, I don't know which one is most accurate, and I'm not sure it matters anyway.
I always had problems in school, as a rebel and malcontent.
I never even realized how important learning was until I got out of high school.
Now, all I do is study. I read and learn and experience everything I can.
For me, testing high was a hindrance to me.
Everybody expected something out of me.
And this was my observation about that.
People of regular intelligence seem to think that somebody who tests high would want the "same things" as they want, and "see things the same way", but just able to do better.
The problem with that thinking is that a person who tests high actually sees the world differently, and may in fact want totally different things than people who don't test high. So, that person might not even want to pursue ideas that regular people think are important.
There's MUCH more to it than just thinking that a gifted person sees things the same way and can just do it better. It's much more complex than that.
But you have to "be there" to "see that", and unfortunately that doesn't happen in real life. People see things from their own POV.
2 Chronicles 7:14
Very good insight Big T...
I already done knew you was a smart one but the POV is really the big piece. I have lots of "smart" friends but they don't want to step outside the box with their thinking and asking questions about our system. Like many they'll step outside enough to see we have a problem but will not take the time to look at the bigger picture. That takes noggin time. You have to follow the threads of thought and action that has created this mess. Speaking for myself once you pick up one thread then you find another and another...
Have you ever read John Taylor Gatto's: The Underground history of American Education? It's free online.
You only have to read a few chapters to REALLY understand just how purposely dumb downed we have been. I was so personally pissed off for days after reading that. I remember my elementary education and every time they blocked me from blossoming intellectually. It was never in an unkind way but after reading that I completely understood. Yes like you now I study but oh how I lament the fact that when my brain was more youthful and absorbing I could have learned so much more than the minimalist crap that was shoved down my (all of our) throats
Krmaya,
I haven't read that one, but I am familiar with "The Deliberate Dumbing-Down of America".
That's a good one too.
Both my parents were in the public education profession. I saw what was going on with that, by hearing them talk about what was happening in the field. It bugged them that I was not the "perfect school-kid", and didn't "live up to expectations" at school, but they knew I had it in me, and they let me do my own thing.
Eventually, I didn't let my schooling get in the way of my education, and started learning things on my own. I never stopped learning after that. I love learning. I just hate school, and the authoritarian process.
I'm just lucky that my number didn't come up in the draft in 1973. I would have spent my whole military career in the jail-house for insubordination.
LOL!
2 Chronicles 7:14
Well until recently (3 years ago) I thought books were dumb too. That started around the Jr. High period. Before then, I read every book I could get my hands on and from then on I only read what was assigned in school. But I did actually read those books no matter how awful they were. Mayor of Casterbridge BLEH, Wuthering Height UGH, Travels With Charlie TERRIBLE, The Great Gatsby KILL ME. Just last year I read I think 9 books? I figure with the sheer volume of what I read online this is a good number.
I feel like all I do is read these days. But there are only 3 ways to gain knowledge. Do something, read something, or listen to something (without a visual aide).
My boys are tripping me out because they want to read. For Christmas the 16 year old got "A Brave New World", "Fahrenheit 451" and "A Tale of Two Cities". The 13 year old got "1984", "Catcher in the Rye" and "Animal Farm"!!
I hated all that crap in high school but now I wished I had of read more. I was the artsy fartsy whackjob type (who'da guessed?) I liked stuff like "Les Miserables".
I scored an 810 on my SAT. !
P.S. Nope not ONLY 3 ways. Statistically that's incorrect with 3 input variances i.e., seeing-hearing, seeing-doing etc etc. :P It's atypical for a person to just have one way of learning. Yes, there's a preferred learning but we have 2 slots for that capability. So one of your learning preferences "minors".
Did you know you can use this little trick to "read someone"? Pick up on when someone responds to you: "I see", "I hear ya" or "I feel ya" type thing. That tells you their major learning preference...whichever one they speak the most. There is a way to use to manipulate too, using one learning preference talk with 1 and 2 sentence and then switching up your 3rd sentence with the minor learning preference talk and following with a switchback on the 4th sentence. It's something salesman use all the time. "I see you really love the Corvette. I can see you enjoying that car for many years. I hear everyone that buys one loves it. My view is you'd love this car." It is persuasive and supposedly irresistible.
I couldn't finish Brave New World. It literally made me sick to read it, knowing what I know. Had I read it back in school it would have been very different I am sure. The rest are very good books.
Brave New World
Was required reading in my senior year at high school.
It made me ill as well. And, it made an impression on me that has made me a different, not better, person today.
It somehow impressed upon me that having children was something meant for the deltas. I mean Alphas didn't distort their bodies, or mess up their lives with carrying a child. Sick, sick, sick! But on a seventeen year old???????????
LIVE and let live.
I wrote an essay that got published when I was in high school called "When the Process is Due". It is an essay chronicling my attempt at the research paper "Pessimism and Fatalism In 'Tess of the D'urbevilles' as Reflected through the life of Thomas Hardy". I won an award for it.
There is a very advanced program now to take care of all the kids. It's called home schooling. I too was a "gifted" kid I dropped out of HS 5 months before graduation. When I was ready to actually do something I wanted to in academia, I went to the college and took my GED test and went on to get in the highly competitive dental hygiene program.
Thomas did you ever read John Taylor Gatto's "The Underground History of American Education"? That will open your eyes to why you felt seat belted with the scholl system. It's got lots of history behind education that I never knew. It's free if you use your search engine you'll find John's site where he offers it free online.
I'm not gifted but I am a big advocate of home schooling. It works wonders whether you are gifted or not though I do admit that my more gifted siblings benefited more from the home schooling.
Agree 100%
I know people who have home schooled their children and those children are so far ahead of public schooled children, it's astounding.
I also know of all the woes they encountered in achieving the home schooling of their children. But, they persisted; and their rewards far out weigh their misery inflicted by the government.
LIVE and let live.
You are gifted, just not specifically in the way normally defined as "gifted". Why is it that we equal worth or talent with such a narrow subset of the wide array of brilliance and creativity that has been imbued in the human race? This in itself is a travesty.
I'm not sure if you're in trouble or not.
LOL I had to pause there a minute to get what you meant... naw Khomar knows his wife is a genius and he better say it out loud now and then.
Anybody picking up a pattern here yet?
Yeah...
Govt schools are sh*t and we are all twinkling bright lights...
Exactly
And it's the government's job to extinguish those lights.
LIVE and let live.
no But I Sped Read An Amazon Review....
and it looks really good.Thanks
Home schooling what a concept!!!! The McGuffey Readers are still going strong.
Awe...
Don't worry Cougar, It isn't just one school...It is almost all of them. They ditch Math for Language arts because they do not have time for speed tests everyday. Therefore the math at a 5th grade level is 3 times as hard. Just sad. They are all quite the soldiers though. In a fight that was supposed to be enjoyable. I forgive you. It is a very hard place to be.
Ron Paul 2012
I went to observe math class for my 5th grader. Each "team" of 4 has a bucket located centrally that they use with counting blocks, strips of 10 and full plates of 100. The bucket is named "The Banker". They have no math (or science or LA) book and are learning "freewheel" math, if you come to the correct answer, they don't care how the conclusion was arrived. I would have loved that when I was in school but no, I had to "show my work"!
I have become one of those Mom's at the school.
For the last three years I have questioned there ethics. My son who had lied to me one time about a situation learned very quickly that he will never again. I had a son that kept telling me that a certain teacher was "Punishing him for being alive." I was definatly skeptical of the situation. I kept a log and daily asked what happened and what he did. It came time to act simply because of what was happening. I removed the teacher and everything changed. 2 years later she showed up as a sub in his classroom, She instantly attacked him. I walked into the principles office and complained. She came down with me there not knowing who I was and acted just the way my son had said a couple years before. Needless to say, when I walk into the office...I get there attention!
It is the love of teaching that makes the children successful. The socialization of the friend network to protect them, and the time to enjoy what they are learning. The new system allows only for the work. Not the Fun involved. It is heartwrenching. My oldest was the first year here of the new learning system. Yes he was reading when he started kindergarden. Now he hates every minute of the day...except for the teacher with a choice to teach with love, not an agenda. Our new system simply doesn't allow for the time for the teachers nor the Time to even care. They right their plans, but the curriculum is double the time.
Ron Paul 2012
Thanks, Poca
You don't know how much I appreciate your response.
Bless you.
LIVE and let live.
Cougar Sometimes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBgjysQA6Cc
(this is the full version sorry the first one was cut off)
Oruval's dream jogged my memory of something stupid I did.
I was visiting a Navy buddy of mine a few years ago. He was still in at the time and was living off-base with a couple shipmates. We got all drunk one night and he showed me this pretty sweet body armor he "borrowed" from the ship's armory. Well one thing led to another and I ended up with a .22 in my hand with him giggling and laughing and telling me to shoot him.
So I did....and we had a good laugh then he was like wait screw this and went and got his M1 Carbine and took it outside and started firing it up into the air.
Good times....bad decisions.
You shot him?! Where? or did you miss?
I hit him right in the center of his body armor and I don't even think he felt it.
We just laughed and laughed
Steel Plates Or Kevlar?
because if it was steel plates I think there was a possibility of a dangerous ricochet...not to smart for 168 Mr.Peabody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpgJzlY9y8A
not smart anyway because I was piss drunk.
and I can't answer that question because I don't remember. He called it "class 5" body armor...so whatever that means
Heres One For You stick...
I go over to my cousins house a couple of years ago to visit. Shitty neighborhood and he lives in an upstairs apt alone.I get there and take my auto beretta out of my waistband (uncomfortable) and set it on the coffee table with the clip out. He sees this picks it up pulls the slide back part way not even looking into the chamber, releases it and goes to dry fire it pointing it at the floor and for the life of me don't know what the hell he was thinking.
Click...boom...hole in floor...no sound from the junkie living downstairs...panic head to bar for multiple shots of whiskey because bullet trajectory was a direct line to to said junkies couch where he spent most of his time in a heroin haze...
After enough shots of whiskey we head back to the apt...it's quiet so I look at the rectangular shape of the living room and figure the layout of the direction of the floor joist's and deduce that the round is now buried in the 2X10 joist...we got real lucky...the junkie never said a word so that's what I think happened.
Your cousin obviously was not used to handling guns often? As in "OH BOY it's been far too long since I've seen and handled one of these so let me pick this up and show Thomas how cool this is" Points gun down expecting pop and gets bang instead. He needs to have enough guns around to keep him from becoming dangerous.
He Is Now...
and taken all the safety courses and takes his daughter to the range and has a nice collection started.
Excellent! SO it was a great lesson. I love it when life teaches us like that.
I think that might be worse than what I did because it shows gross negligence of gun rule #1.
Always assume the gun is loaded.
Then again I was knowingly shooting at my friend...so....
The Negligence Was Mostly...
on me...I should have jacked that round out of the chamber...can look back on it and laugh with him now about it but we were in a panic that there was a dead guy downstairs for sure...
LMAO "Always assume the gun
LMAO
"Always assume the gun is loaded."
Then point it at your friend and shoot !!! Yeah that's much better