The REAL Message of the Brown Election

Khomar's picture

There is a lot of talk out there about how we sent a message to Washington yesterday by electing a Republican to a long-held Democratic seat in the Senate. I would like to point you to one such article because the author touched on something important but missed the significance.

A Warning To The Washington DC Establishment

Tonight Senator-Elect Brown made what, if Senator McCain has not woken up from his slumber, will prove to be a critical error. He said:

"I’ll never forget the help of another man who took the time to meet with me months ago – who told me I could win, and gave me confidence for the fight. It was all so characteristic of a truly great and heroic American, and tonight I thank my new colleague, Senator John McCain."

Really? Heroic eh?

So heroic that he turned a blind eye to the fraud that led us into this economic morass and not only refused to demand prosecution, clawbacks and justice during his campaign but has utterly refused to atone since?

Should Senator-elect Brown bring that attitude to Washington DC, unless Senator McCain has changed his tune (and I've yet to hear him sing differently) he will have made a critical error of judgment in regard to the message sent tonight.

What the author does not understand is that this wasn't a critical error. This was Brown simply revealing his true colors. He is part of the establishment, the new poster child for the Republican "revolution". This isn't an error because most voters won't even consider this statement or what it means.

And this is the problem: we did not send the message that we think we said. What did we say? That we have a price. At this point, that price is defeating the health care bill. We are willing to sacrifice our principles for the sake of possibly beating one bill.

Don't you understand? This is exactly how they got the House of Representatives to vote for the first TARP bill. They found their price: the Great Lakes Water bill. This caused many representatives (like Pete Hoekstra of Michigan) to sacrifice their principled opposition to TARP.

We told Washington that as long as they give us a big enough carrot, they can continue to keep their regime intact and promote their own establishment candidates.

What is worse is that we may very well have ushered in our next president. Don't believe me? Think about it. He is a young, handsome man with national recognition and the proven ability to generate nation-wide financial support. He has moderate-conservative views that are acceptable to most "conservative" voters. Combine him with Palin, and you might just have the star-power lineup the Republicans need to rejuvenate their base (while changing nothing in their agenda).

You heard it here first: Brown/Palin 2012.

A sad day.

Thomas's picture

Bugle Call http://www.dailypaul.com/node/122299

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/122299

Plus this....looks urgent

Senate Dems Not Sure They Can Get Enough Votes to Reconfirm Bernanke
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/01/senate-dems-not-sure-the...

tonite ron paul sent an
Submitted by ruckmanite on Fri, 01/22/2010 - 03:05.

tonite ron paul sent an urgent request to us. the first one ever. CALL SENATORS AND SAY NO RENOMINATION OF BERNAKE UNTIL THE AUDIT THE FED BILL GOES BEFORE A VOTE!

He did not say p.s. call to stop cap n trade, or to shoot the shit with us about medina, spending limits, scott brown. 501c3, u.s. bankruptcy, air america or to ask financial advise from daddywarbucks (in in your corner warbucks)or to say hit the deck thier is a HAARP lightning bolt headed for your keister!

no disrespect meant. but that stuff can wait ron pauls 30 year fight to end the fed could go down in flames tonite! He knows where our efforts will do the most good. lets listen.

Devon_Saunders's picture

Blah.

Now you got me going to the DP....

My calls are to Coburn and Inhofe...

not 1/2 bad.

:)

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Thomas's picture

I'm Stuck With

Boxer and Swinestien...

cougarbreath's picture

How would you like to have

Durbin and ,the purchased Obama replacement Roland Burris?

Feeling depressed, yet?

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cougarbreath's picture

No Comments, Heh?

Not unexpected.

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Thomas's picture

I Was Giving That New Guy Oyate Over At DP

a plateful...sorry. I'd trade both of em for Satan, hows that?

cougarbreath's picture

Stick Addressing the easy way out

The more I look at the forums regarding Glenn Beck, the more I am reminded of Ron Paul's Presidential run in 2008. The exact same rhetoric, slamming, ridiculing, anything to keep the "usual" sheep from watching.

This is somewhat alarming to me. There are neo-con republican sites that will ban you for posting any Glenn Beck material, and woo-hoo sites, filled with shills from either side, totally destroying anything anyone posts about Glenn Beck.

What does that tell you?

What do both of these parties have against Ron Paul and Glenn Beck?

Edit: again. I've also noticed that the zionist shills especially don't like Glen Beck. Of, course we know they can't stand Ron Paul.

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stick's picture

Why not address whether or not you feel that you are someone who is possibly a danger to the president, because Beck thinks you are.

Or perhaps how you feel about Beck calling Ron Paul supporters crazy and dangerous and never saying anything about Paul in conjunction with the tea parties before taking them over and claiming leadership.

What you are trying to insinuate tells me that the programming is working. Beck is meant to be polarizing. To the left Beck is a crazy person and therefor they are pushed further into the Obama camp because Beck is seen as the alternative. He is the new Rush Limbaugh in that respect. For the right, Beck is the new hero figure because he is now using the language of the former Republican party. But what did he talk about today...yeah I watched it, I said I watch the show. What is the other hand doing. What is Beck's other hand doing? Again he is promoting the death of the progressive left, but at the same time he is pushing the progressive right. Why does Beck want a new VAT to pay the onerous debt that has been rung up in our names? Why is Beck promoting Cass Sunsteins ideas that 9/11 truthers are dangerous? Why does he call himself an idiot or clown or something like that every show? Today it was with the chalk thing, usually it's the alcoholism, or how he's fat.

I said in the past to take what he's saying to wake people up after they have gotten their first dose of truth in awhile. But Beck is creating a cult of personality around him that is going to be hard to pry people off of him and into the real truth categories. It's hard enough with one of the totally blind people out there, but compared to this right here trying to pry someone that should see right through it off of him...well apparently I'm going to need a jackhammer.

Devon_Saunders's picture

Not at all.

Glen Beck is a gatekeeper.

That is it.

He is a man paid by Murdoch to make sure that the increasing amount of people ~waking up~ are being fed the information they want you to hear. He is funneling them into what is needed for 2012... from the same people that brought you 2008.

That's it.

I'm sorry there isn't a more polite way to put it.

Think about it... if he was telling you something that the powers-that-be didn't want you to hear he would just have a heart attack. Actually, the popular one the last 10 years has been an auto accident. It's easier to cover up.

Glen Beck is a shepard, nothing more. He works FOR someone.

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cougarbreath's picture

Then Please Explain

Why he is so hated by the neo-con republicans, and progressive liberals , as well?

Why?

These same people hated Ron Paul. And attack in very similar ways as they did in the 2008 election campaign.

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Why do you think he is hated?

Again, if he was then he'd be dead.

Period.

This is like wresting on TV hun... after hours and off the screen they're eating chicken-fried steeak and sipping on a Big Dawg beer while comparing stories about how they fooled... you.

Now... you have a point with Brown in that the REAL people that are warring for power way above us had a realignment with that election. A BIG one.

But Glen Beck and Alex Jones are merely people who have the job of collecting the people who are waking up and putting them into the proper ward.

Stick was probably more eloquent than me on this... but there's the street version...

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stick's picture

It's because he is the new progressive...he is what is coming. He said it himself. The progressives are going to go underground and pop up in a new place. He is part of the recon team. The PTB have completely realized that we are a major force because they have pushed too far. They have to corral us back into the pens so they infiltrate us with their paid actors. Again, what does he say about how the Liberals became the "Liberals". He's telling you his whole mission if you listen to him.

oruval's picture

UM stick.. Cougar..

Did you guys ever stop to think you're arguing over glen beck..

He's paid 50,000,000 a year and works for fox.. that should be the end of the discussion.. he's doing a great job having you two argue.. that is what he's paid to do..

Carry on.

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stick's picture

...should be...

Thomas's picture

The Clearest Case...

Of The Faux Guarding The Henhouse Ever Seen

(pun intended for those with reduced comprehension skills)

cougarbreath's picture

I've asked you before to be more specific

with your statements.

All I know is in 2008, I went from forum to forum, to forum, searching for more information about Ron Paul. The majority of these "republican" forums would not even let you "mention" the name Ron Paul.

I certainly didn't bother with the DU or Huffington Post, because I knew they hated him.

Now, this same propaganda is being deployed against Glenn Beck.

Again, I ask why?

Please, do me a favor, and watch his show tomorrow, and let's discuss afterwards.

Otherwise, this will have to be a taboo subject between you and me.

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stick's picture

I just told you why, specifically. He is the new prototype which means the old ones are being phased out. The smart ones have figured out that he's in on the game with them, while the denser ones...the people mainly, haven't so they fight him.

Republicans fight Ron because he reminds them that they are not Republicans and it pisses them off. It's that simple.

Ron Paul has a 30+ year history of consistency.
Glenn Beck makes up a new personality within his overall persona every few years, or months depending on the level of distraction.

Comparing the two is disingenuous

I explained why the left hates him, because they want to feel and speak what he's saying but they don't want to be associated with him.

Did you not watch his show today? I did, I watched it yesterday too. Are you trying to tell me that you have this opinion based on not even watching his show because that would be most upsetting to this whole conversation. I will probably watch it tomorrow too, especially if he is showing this documentary(*cough* Alex Jones...*cough* Michael Moore).

You have now ignored two major points in two straight posts yet infer that I am skating around your questions. Up your game if you want to discuss it or just let it go, because I don't play these games very well.

cougarbreath's picture

No, you have not.

I just hear a lot of rhetoric, about he's the new prototype.

I see within your posts some back pedalling, because, "that's the way he used to be"

In my perspective, Glenn Beck fully swallowed the red pill in the fall of 2008. It slowly started changing his opinion of everything.

I watch his show every day.

He has had Ron Paul on his show.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see where you are coming from. Maybe I have a different pair of eyes than you.

But, I do not want to carry on this conversation, because I see you have your own beliefs, and I respect them. And, I have my own, as well.

I agree with you on many other things, but not this. :)

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stick's picture

well that's 3 in a row As for

well that's 3 in a row

As for rhetoric, I am just using Beck's own words against him. So if you have a problem with the rhetoric you have a problem with Beck. Also rhetoric implies that there is no substance behind it. I ask you to actually listen to what he is saying because he IS telling you what his mission is.

And judging by the "tightness" comment you made the other day, you may not want to try to read any further into what I type because you are working with the wrong perceptions. That's my comment on the "back peddling".

So why don't you want to address the point that Beck thinks you are a person with dangerous thoughts? He just said it yesterday, or the day before on his radio show so that's clearly not "the way he used to be".

cougarbreath's picture

I clearly do not understand what you are saying.

Period.

Let the chips fall where they may.

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stick's picture

lets have some fun :)

we will start with an oldie but goodie

You say this would be before his "red pill" experience but lets post it

9/11 Truth

another but now we are white supremacists

He hates the family members?

And the most recent attack on 9/11 Truth being terrorists...I couldn't find the radio clip by itself

stick's picture

I can't believe you just won't answer to this. You've skipped around it 5 times in this thread already and instead of answering you just shut down or deflect.

If Glenn Beck is so "liberty minded" and is promoting anything but himself and his role as a gatekeeper why is he calling YOU a potential terrorist and a danger to this country?

Why does he HATE(his words) the 9/11 victims families for asking questions?

Why does he think the PATRIOT Act(unconstitutional legislation he supports) should be used on YOU for being a Ron Paul supporter or because you think 9/11 was an inside job?

If Beck is such a "libertarian" why is he calling for more taxes to pay for the bailouts, WHICH HE SUPPORTED?

I guess as long as he repeats "I'm a Libertarian at heart" 50 times a show it's OK.

stick's picture

Copying your post over here Cougar because for the life of me I don't understand why even though I linked you directly to this post you commented in the chat thread

Here's my analysis

Some of the videos were old. Glen Beck did not fully swallow the red pill until early 2009.

Quoting rhetoric from 2007- 2008 is stuff that Glenn Beck will himself apologize for.

The 9/11 truther stuff is a subject, I don't think Glenn Beck can touch, plain and simple. Fox isn't going to tolerate it, and the American people , for the most part, are unwilling to accept that claim. You and I have different opinions, but that's the way of the the world, unfortunately.

If anything, I feel like you are being spoon fed a hatred for Glenn Beck by people like AJ. His approach, as truthful as it can be, is obnoxious, abrasive and non-condusive to winning anyone over to the side of truth. AJ wins sometimes, but, he's way too overboard for most people to even listen to.

Ok so first off I've had an opinion of Beck since he dissed Ron Paul and called us terrorists. I gave him some rope because of what I saw happening to his show, he was starting to tell people important stuff and was ripping apart the Obama radicals. But he's hung himself now. This has nothing to do with AJ. If it did I wouldn't even bother watching the show. I'd just let Jones tell me what to think and be a good little woken up sheep. That's not me.

Second, you are being deceptive. A few posts above here you say "In my perspective, Glenn Beck fully swallowed the red pill in the fall of 2008". Yet in this post you are now saying early 2009. Now is that because the videos I linked are past this point? I mean with the exception of the one which I clearly labeled as "before the red pill" they are from FOX which he just celebrated his 1 year anniversary which puts him there in January of 09.

About the truther thing, so you think it's OK for him to go on TV AND the radio show and call us...YOU...dangerous and that we want to kill Obama? Wouldn't he just...I don't know LEAVE IT ALONE. After-all 9/11 was 8 and 1/2 years ago.

At this point I have to wonder if you are just clinging to something because it hurts to be fooled or what. Jones is absolutely right that Beck is taking everything he's pioneered and all the research he's done and creating a cult of personality upon which he has stolen the Tea Party movement and directed it into this 9/12 new Bob Barr type fake libertarianism. It's a freaking joke how transparent this is. Devon is absolutely right by comparing this to wrestling. Do you realize how many people think wrestling is real? WHY? Because it emotionally captivates them. You yourself said that you are a very emotional person and that you connect with Beck. Does this not help you see why you can't follow what I am saying? Look above, re-read this thread. Everyone else understands what I am saying.

cougarbreath's picture

And further

"Copying your post over here Cougar because for the life of me I don't understand why even though I linked you directly to this post you commented in the chat thread"

Because that is where you asked me the question.

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cougarbreath's picture

Ha Ha Ha

I needed that laugh! :)

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cougarbreath's picture

Let me Clarify

some of my statements.I said GB tok the red pill in Fall of 2008, but he didn't swallow it fully until 2009. I know that sounds like a cop out, but, if you watched his shows, you would see.

Most of those 9/11 truther statements and Ron Paul statements were made prior to 2009. Honestly, have you heard him say anything like this currently?

Gosh, I remember myself prior to taking the red pill, and I would be embarrassed to tell anyone what I believed back then. You know what it's like. It's like all of a sudden a total veil falls off, and there is no going back.

I don't think I'm being fooled at all. I think maybe you should look into AJ's motives a little more. He's a little too unstable for me, especially with his megaphone, out on the streets, ranting and raving. Yeah, that's doing all of us a lot of good.

I have a hard time trying to determine AJ's agenda. It seems like he's out for truth, but he's so gosh darn abrasive, and big mouthed about it, it just turns people off.

I'm not disputing Glenn Beck taking/stealing Alex Jones' material one bit. He just distributes it in a saner and more palatable fashion. In my perspective, AJ is just ticked because he cannot deliver the message to as many people. But he likes to rant, so, there you have it.

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stick's picture

"Most of those 9/11 truther

"Most of those 9/11 truther statements and Ron Paul statements were made prior to 2009. Honestly, have you heard him say anything like this currently?"

YES THATS WHAT THE LAST VIDEO IS ABOUT.

haha this is just embarrassing now, I'll leave you alone about it.
My jackhammer has run out of fuel.

cougarbreath's picture

Stick

Can I further suggest that you watch his show, yourself, and form your own opinions instead of listening to other people's interpretation of his beliefs.

That's where I am coming from.

Let's get on level ground, and then debate. Glenn Beck is a turned around person from 2008 and early 2009. Watch his shows. Then I'll be glad to debate you on his CURRENT beliefs.

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stick's picture

due to limitations there is only one way for me to get my message to you, take it however it tickles you....

I HAVE BEEN WATCHING IT ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR AT LEAST 2 MAYBE 3 MONTHS NOW, I AM PRETTY SURE I ALREADY SAID THAT I WATCH THE SHOW AND HAVE OFF AND ON AT LEAST SINCE HE CALLED RON PAUL SUPPORTERS TERRORISTS. AM I SPEAKING TO YOU IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE? IT FRUSTRATES ME WHEN YOU HUMILIATE YOURSELF BY TRYING TO PIN ON ME SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST OR EXISTS IN YOUR MIND. IT MAKES CONVERSATION VERY DIFFICULT. THIS HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUSLY STUPID DISCUSSIONS I HAVE HAD IN MONTHS BECAUSE EVERY POINT YOU MAKE IS EITHER MADE BY NEGLECTING WHAT I HAVE ALREADY SAID, IGNORING ALL EVIDENCE, OR BY CHANGING YOUR STORY.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CURRENT BELIEFS HOW YOU CANNOT SEE THAT IS BEYOND ME CONSIDERING MOST OF WHAT I POSTED WAS FROM FOX. I AM POSTING HIS OWN WORDS WHICH YOU ARE SAYING MEAN SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE SOMEHOW WHAT HE SAID EVEN BEFORE WHAT I'VE POSTED WAS BEFORE HE TOOK THE RED PILL EVEN THOUGH HE STILL BELIEVES THE SAME THINGS HE BELIEVED BEFORE; MAINLY THAT IF YOU SUPPORT 9/11 TRUTH YOU ARE A POTENTIAL TERRORIST. HE REITERATED THAT 2 DAYS AGO. HOW IS THAT FOR CURRENT BELIEFS?

I TRIED TO GIVE YOU AN OUT BY TELLING YOU THAT I WAS FINISHED BUT IF YOU MUST CONTINUE TO PLAY THIS RETARD GAME THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR MATCH THOUGH I WILL CERTAINLY TIRE FIRST BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN THIS.

I am sure I'll get some kind of scolding for this but this is just fucking stupid, this whole thing is stupid. The fact that you can't even follow this conversation is stupid. Try reading over this whole thread at least 8...maybe 12 times before you respond. It would honestly be best that you don't....but you will, and you will end up hating me in the end. But at least you'll have Glenn Beck to turn to because he's a libertarian at heart and we know this...not because of his actions, but because he says so :)

see-thru's picture

haha.

don't ya just hate it when people have filters? :)

cougarbreath's picture

Geez, Stick

I certainly didn't think this whole debate would lead to this.

I see things differently than you.{{period}}

Perhaps this is because I frequent forums that you, or probably anyone here, would even visit. I don't post at many of them, I lurk, and observe. This enables me to gain PERSPECTIVE, as in whole picture. I see/read how people think and process information. And I can tell you that I see the tables turning.

I think Bright had the best comment to offer on GB. That he's getting people to wake up and listen. To me, that's a good thing. GB, in my estimation is trying to bring people from both parties to some plateau of agreement. Everyone is never going to agree with each other. Can you imagine what a boring world this would be if everyone agreed about everything.

All this bickering is very divisive, and there's where AJ comes in. Instead of just doing his thing, he has to take it a step further, and start attacking people who have the same common goals and make them out to be traitors. Traitors, really, that is a pretty harsh criticism in my book.

He is just like the die hard neo-con republican who immediately dismisses anything Ron Paul says as "troofer", "cuckoo", "nut job", etc., etc, etc.
It makes you just want to reach through the computer and slap them.

Personally, I believe people are going to have to come to some level of understanding of what is REALLY important,and set aside some issues for another day.

It's very frustrating being "me" most of the time. I'll use my boss as an example, again. I could show him a picture of a beautiful landscape, and he would zoom in on a single blade of grass, and say something stupid, like it doesn't look right.

My problem is I think other people think the same way I do. So, I may appear to not be looking at the same things you are, but to me those things are just part of the whole picture.

I hope you understand me a little better because of this little exchange of thoughts. :)

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Thomas's picture

Lets Just Put The Final Touch On That ...

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http://www.infowars.com/communism-and-the-obamatrons-beck-only-tells-hal...

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
January 22, 2010

Glenn Beck will roll out his Fox News documentary today. It’s called “Live Free Or Die,” a motto taken from General John Stark and inspired by Patrick Henry’s famed March 23, 1775 speech to the House of Burgesses. Henry famously declared: “I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

Glenn Beck is no Patrick Henry. His latest book’s title is a direct rip-off of Thomas Paine’s revolutionary pamphlet Common Sense. Beck is no Thomas Paine. He is not a patriot. He is an Operation Mockingbird asset and his assignment is to take down the patriot movement. He is a Judas Goat. His task is to destroy the patriot movement and lead it into political irrelevance.

In the trailer for Beck’s documentary we are reminded that communists killed millions. Beck warns that officials in the Obama administration are communists. Obama’s jettisoned “green jobs” czar Van Jones is supposedly a communist (and a black nationalist, anarchist, and 9/11 truther — take your pick). White House Communications Director Anita Dunn said Chairman Mao is one of her “favorite political philosophers.” Ron Bloom, Obama’s Manufacturing Czar, also made a fawning comment or two about Mao the Mass Murderer. “We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun,” said Bloom. Does this mean Obama will launch his own version of the Cultural Revolution? Not necessarily.

It looks like Beck will leave out the most salient and important fact about Stalin and Mao: they were funded and supported by Wall Street. Morgan, Rockefeller, and the Wall Street financiers funded and supported the Russian Revolution. Leon Trotsky was given $20 million in gold by the banker Jacob Schiff to help finance the revolution. Lenin was provided a free pass to travel across Europe with the help of Max Warburg, head of the Rothschild-affiliated Warburg bank. He was put in a sealed railway car with over $5 million in gold from the German government and upon reaching Petrograd was joined by Stalin and Trotsky.

“The course of Russian history has, indeed, been greatly affected by the operations of international bankers,” Rep. Louis T. McFadden, chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee throughout the 1920-30s, explained. “The Soviet Government has been given United States Treasury funds by the Federal Reserve Board… acting through the Chase Bank.”

“Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history,” said David Rockefeller in 1973, years after Mao exterminated around 70 million people.

Read the rest of the article here:

http://www.infowars.com/communism-and-the-obamatrons-beck-only-tells-hal...

(Cougar I won't watch his show except to see what new way he twist's and omits critical information to lead people falsely while lying right to their faces that he is helping them.He is shit in my book. I watched him all the way through the to the end of the campaign and until now and he knows what he is doing...What we are witnessing is psyops at it's finest and they really picked a winner, a harmless looking little guy that claims he loves America and freedom and blah blah blah I'm going to tell you the truth blah blah blah...50,000,000 and guess what it's working because even someone like you that has been around the last couple of years has bought it.)

krmaya's picture

You're kinda cute when you're pissed off... Kat I think he may be from your last litter.

stick's picture

I'm not pissed, I figured she was having trouble reading my type so I decided to make it LARGER.

brightdrrkness's picture

I agree with you about glenn beck but at the same time thats divisive...leading people astray or not its bringing issues of some substance to light...I didnt know how to feel about his fake changing for awhile...my natural inclination is that if he is aloud to speak this to so many people on mainstream media...100% chance hes full of sh*t and his actions prove this. Isn't there some good to it if he awakens some people and it backfires on him(and it will) and more people wake up?The easiest way for the enemy to get hurt is for them to hurt themselves(again they WILL). They do it everyday and without pause...

cougarbreath's picture

Fine

I really prefer not to debate it any longer. I have my beliefs, and you have not given me any reason to doubt them, instead you have given me reason to doubt AJ.

We'll see, all too soon, I'm afraid who called it right.

Peace, Bro.

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Thomas's picture

stick Can I Plagarize...

the first little paragraph? Pretty please with sugar on top?

stick's picture

thats fine

stick's picture

It wasn't relevant :)

Thomas's picture

This Looks Like...

The Jihad is on!!!!

Khomar's picture

I must admit that I go back and forth, but the one thing that gives the biggest pause is simply this: Fox News. I loathe that station and all that it represents. I truly believe it is the most diabolical and evil news station out there right now. I believe one of its primary goals was to deceive and destroy the Christian Church in America. With Glenn Beck having such a prime position on that channel, I keep an eye on him with a lot of skepticism.

Thomas's picture

No No No Khomar As Much As I Loath Beck And O'Rielly

there is just something vile about Keith Obermann that makes me want to use his head for batting practice...and the same for that drooling Chris Matthews...ughhh

Khomar's picture

Well, perhaps it is a matter of relative position. I dislike and do not trust all of the mainstream media outlets including ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and even my favorite news station: Comedy Central. ;-)

I don't trust any of them, but Fox News holds a special place in my heart.

Thomas's picture

Yeah it's A matter Of Position....

Keith's head preferably would be pitched somewhere between my knees and waist...
Craaaack....homerun.....

(hey Gils here..let trash rhino and keep him happy)

Gil's picture

I'm always happy. No need to kick the puppy, he's sleeping.

However, I've been feeling a lot of anger toward the Goldman Sachs gang lately. I just finished reading one of Martin Armstrong's recent articles.

stick's picture

Olbermann should go back to watching batting practice on ESPN

and lol @ Chris "My hero is Saul Alinsky and I view politics from a Marxist perspective" Matthews

cougarbreath's picture

Khomar

In all due respect, is that why you used to post Judge Andrew Napolitano's Freedom Watch?

What the heck is going on here?

I am seing alot of hypocrisy being displayed, all of a sudden, and I wonder why?

Again, WTH?

I don't agree with everything Fox News reports, but, WTH?

I guess I got out of the Daily Paul in time.

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Khomar's picture

Quite honestly, I was always torn about posting Freedom Watch due to its association. I kept it going for a while because I knew there were some users here that watched it faithfully. If you look at my posts, you will see that I posted commentary talking about the selection of some of the guests and the various attempts to (in my mind) subvert the show. It is part of the reason why I stopped following the show. It just didn't feel right to me, a nagging feeling I couldn't put a finger on.

I do think there was a reason why that show never made it to the air as well. Looking back, I think it was designed to try to lure people in the libertarian movement into thinking that Fox News wasn't so bad, and putting their neo-con guests in there was a way to build an association between the show and the parent station. Could be wrong; but it was a nagging concern.

The thing is, I like Judge Napolitano... but even he I wonder about due to association.

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