for chiefronpaul - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 20:54
Topical tobacco paste is sometimes recommended as a treatment for wasp, hornet, fire ant, scorpion, and bee stings. An amount equivalent to the contents of a cigarette is mashed in a cup with about a 0.5 to 1 teaspoon of water to make a paste that is then applied to the affected area. Paste has a diameter of 4 to 5 cm (1.5 to 2 inches) and may need to be moistened in dry weather. If made and applied immediately, complete remission is common within 20–30 minutes, at which point the paste can be removed. The next day there may be a some residual itching, but virtually no swelling or redness. There seems to be no scientific evidence, as yet, that this common home remedy works to relieve pain. For about 2 percent of people, allergic reactions can be life-threatening and require emergency treatment. For more on this, see bee stings.
for Liberti - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:09
One thing I didn't notice anywhere or if it was mentioned, either I didn't see it or not enough emphasis was put on it but if you have any of these poisons, (ivy, oak or sumac)...it's best to avoid exposure to the sun. It will cause the rash to get worse. This also applies to tanning booths.
The clear caladryl didn't work for me, it made it worse. My recommendation is to try different things until you find something that works well for you. Most people are different and not everything will work the same for everyone. I noticed aloe worked well for me.
With Liberti and Justice for All!
for Pocahontas - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:15 My brother believes that if you come in contact with poison ivy, oak or sumac you should immediately poor bleach to kill the poison. Right away is recommended he said it really burns the open rash! - But it dries up and goes away. The sun really does effect the rash and spreads it.
Eyes wide open!
for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:17
I have used bleach and a scratch pad in the past, it works but is so goddamn painful that it's not a desired method of treatment in my book.
for Pocahontas - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:22
Still LMAO! Visual of Stick dancing the ouch dance.
Eyes wide open!
for Pocahontas - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:19
LOL Stick - I never get it he didn't say how bad it hurt.
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for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:15
thanks liberti, it's on my legs for the most part and I usually wear pants even in the heart of summer so sun exposure isn't a problem. So far the best that I have found is the tecnu medicated scrub, and the regular old calamine seems to work the best for keeping the itch down that the tecnu didn't take care of. You know, it's too bad I don't trust shots and a lot of medicines anymore because the steroids always work. Oh well, the itching is a small price to pay to keep government supplied toxins out.
for Liberti - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:38
Hey stick...have you tried just plain rubbing alcohol for the itching? I use it on mosquito bites and sometimes it will take the itch out temporarily and also help to dry it out. I know it will probably sting but what's worse?
With Liberti and Justice for All!
for Bluemoon - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:46
We have these chiggers up north, we call them no see-ums, when they bite it leaves a welt, stings and it itches real bad. I dab the bites with clear nail polish, it works real good.
for cougarbreath - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:57
We just had a blight of them last year up here. I wasn't affected, but people's reactions were kind of funny. People thought they had bed bugs, so they were doing all the disenfecting, spraying, and sanitizing their houses; only to find out they were getting them outside.
for Pocahontas - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:54
Those darn things hurt! - I agree Thanks for the tip.
Eyes wide open!
for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:51
If you are going out the next day, eat a clove of garlic the night before.
No mosquito bites, no no-see-ums.
:)
We do that before hunting... the bugs don't like what you're sweating.
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for Bluemoon - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:54
I already eat a lot of garlic; they do not bother me too much. But I see others get tore up.
I will be sure to tell them about this great tip…
for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 23:00
I lived in a place once called Fort Nelson, British Columbia. Mile 300 on the Alcan highway, a little dor of a town surrounded by muskeg. As in a huge bog when it wasn't frozen.
The town bird was a mosquitoe.. the no-see-ums you could see.. they were clouds. The garlic thing REALLY helped. There were stories in Alaska and this area of early settlers they found drowned for no apparent reason.. turns out they were just trying to stay underwater to get away from the blood-suckers and chewers.
Scary thought.. ;)
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for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:45
no i haven't but the tecnu scrub does have alcohol in it.
for krmaya2 - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:26
I've heard urine is great for stinging nettles and after having a few beers tried it. Worked like a charm. Being a poodle I could squat and pee on you! See Kat I DO have a purpose :P
for Kat - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:33 P
for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:35 A pissing contest?
Heh.
I've made the Natural Cures book... someone holler if they want to know how to flesh it out.
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for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:30
Funny that they will not recommend it as a police for an open wound... although that is what is has been used as for thousands of years.
:)
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for chiefronpaul - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:48
This is the best I found, that was what I was looking for.
Will update with more info when I can find it.
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for cougarbreath - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:55
Here's a link to tobacco - used as a poultice for poison ivy.
http://www.purplesage.org.uk/profiles/indiantobacco.htm
for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:59
while that is wild tobacco, it would most likely mean that there would be similar characteristics in what we think of as tobacco. Hmmm
for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 22:02 That is bladder pod.. the antithesis of tabacco.
That is part of the concoction that we DO smoke...lol.
So it's a whole other deal.
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for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 20:59
will this work on other rashes like say the poison ivy that I have all over my legs that won't go away?
for Grammy - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:56
Happy 4th, ya'll!
Lye soap dries it up real quick. Just get the bar damp and rub it lightly over the rash. Good to wash with before the rash, too, if you know you've gotten into it.
for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:43 I've had poison ivy pretty much every summer since I was 6 or 7. I was just wondering if the tobacco paste thing would make any difference, and since I've never run across any info about it I've never tried. So far this year I have used calamine, tecnu, clear caladryl, and aloe. The tecnu has so far been the best but it doesn't seem to work on all areas for some strange reason. I have avoided going to get a shot or the steroids because I really don't want to go that route. It is interesting that since I have changed my diet and stopped eating such filth and drinking poisonous fluids the rash didn't explode like it usually does, it has remained in small single or double bump pockets.
for krmaya2 - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:54
Why do you get poison ivy rash every year Stick? Are you just like a dog and can't help but romp through the woods with complete abandon? Or does poison ivy spring out at you like a snake? I've never encountered it since I've been in the NW for the last 30 yrs, I'm not sure why one would get it so consistently
for chiefronpaul - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:51
When I weed the garden I pull it all the time. I just wash my hands real good and I no longer get it. :)
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for stick - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:54
If i look at it funny i get it. It's ridiculous. I even took a shower immediately after what I think was my exposure this time and I still got it.
for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:58
I've a family member that way.
My father and I can roll in poison ivy and be just fine... his brother (my uncle) can look at us afterwards and just kinda explode dermally.
Which is kinda weird... my other uncle has no issues with it either, but one of his kids does what you do.. look at it and ~BOOM~.. there it is.
Kinda weird.
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delete edit reply flag this krmaya2 - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:58 The law of attraction is a funny thing at times isn't it!
for krmaya2 - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:31
Have you tried calendula and/or T tree (mellaluca) Also don't forget good ol aloe. I think silver inhibits bacterial inflammation and would be good if there's a 2ndary infection but at the price you paid for it if you have some less expensive products I'd use those. There really are a lot of natural good anti-inflammatories. Like Chief says though it won't hurt to try then let us know.
for chiefronpaul - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:27
Poison Ivy, Oak, or Sumac
Treatment Overview
Date updated: September 25, 2007
Maria G. Essig, MS, ELS
Content provided by Healthwise
The rash (allergic contact dermatitis) from poison ivy, oak, or sumac generally is mild and can be treated at home. Home treatment for the rash usually helps relieve symptoms but does not speed up healing of the rash.
If you know you had contact with one of these plants, immediately wash areas of the skin that may have touched the plant. Sometimes the rash can be completely avoided by washing the affected areas with plenty of water within 10 or 15 minutes of contact. You could also try using a product (such as Tecnu or Zanfel) that is designed to remove the oil from your skin.
To relieve itching and help dry blisters, apply wet compresses or soak the area in cool water. Antihistamine pills or calamine lotion may help relieve symptoms.
If you have a moderate to severe rash, you may need to see your health professional. He or she may prescribe corticosteroid pills. These medicines may help improve or clear up the rash more quickly. Prescription corticosteroid creams, ointments, shots, or gels may also be used, but pills or shots are usually more effective.
A frequent complication of the rash is infection. If this occurs, your health professional will probably prescribe an antibiotic cream that you spread on the affected skin if the infection is small. Otherwise, you may need antibiotic pills or a shot.3 To prevent infection, try not to scratch the rash, and cut your fingernails short to minimize the possibility of opening the skin and spreading bacteria.
Regardless of what type of treatment is used after a rash develops, the length of time it lasts will vary from person to person.
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for chiefronpaul - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:25 Try it & if it dont work we will know.
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for Kat - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:01 )
for chiefronpaul - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 20:56 2% sounds like Devon. lol
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for skeptic - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:14
I think someone below missed the joke, Chief. Kinda took the fun out of it. But thanks.
for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:17
I always manage to do that... it is a talent of mine.. ;)
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for Devon_Saunders - Fri, 07/04/2008 - 21:08
Liberti is kinda odded by that.. she has never been stung.
I, on the other hand, have gone thru hornets, yellowjackets, honeybees, bumblebees, the Pepsis Wasp (AAAGGHH) scorpions, black widows, a brown recluse and 2 rattlesnakes.
So I'm pretty confident that I've no issues with most poisons.
As kids, we used to make a game of getting the bigass wasp nest from the tree and throwing it from kid to kid as we all raced to the lake to get to the water. As a child, you never really think about the fact that since you can't breathe under water, they will be waiting for you.
So I've been stung a lot by about everything.
:)
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